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Thalion
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Username: Thalion

Post Number: 699
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, February 23, 2004 - 5:13 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark from http://www.about.com, where JADE is listed, asked for a review of Shelters of Stones for their reviews section.
The review should be well written, and around 550 words long.
We can either make a joint effort here, and discuss it, or you send your own drafts to contemporarylit.guide@about.com

(Message edited by Admin on February 24, 2004)
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they pass by - Douglas Adams
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Anndee
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Username: Anndee

Post Number: 86
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 5:57 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My review: Too many pages cover too little time with too little action and too many repetitions. Loved it.
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Miisa
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Username: Miisa

Post Number: 283
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 8:31 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anndee, it was 550 words, not pixels.

Nice summary though!
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Thalion
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Username: Thalion

Post Number: 704
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 9:55 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL! Seriously though, is anybody writing something?
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they pass by - Douglas Adams
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Anndee
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Username: Anndee

Post Number: 88
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 6:43 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thalion, it really has to be someone who at least liked the book the first time they read it.

Bulls**tter that I can be, I'd have a hard time fleshing my review into something that would make a non-Auel-fan want to read the book. And I wouldn't want to write so poor (albeit truthful, from my POV) a review as to turn off anyone who might find their way to EC through that book.

Perhaps some of the people who posted early in the SOS Forum at AB might be contacted individually.
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Scott
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Username: Scott

Post Number: 258
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 4:19 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where's Don?

:-)
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Ces gens, Jondalar, ils sourient. Ils me sourient. - Ayla
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Cavebear
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Username: Cavebear

Post Number: 820
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 1:01 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK... "Jean lost the whole point of her own story and drifted off into a romance novel. Too bad, she almost had a good tale to tell about finding one's origins." What a pity...
I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was mistaken about that.
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Pine
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Username: Pine

Post Number: 375
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 4:14 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cavebear, I suspect it was the other way around :-) Some readers had other ideas as to the point of Jean's story and were disappointed to discover what she had in mind. I'm still waiting expectantly for Jean's point to flesh itself out.
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Don
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Post Number: 245
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 29, 2004 - 5:21 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

--------Where's Don? -------

Right here, mate, going through the pile of posts!

I just got back from Canberra, where my younger daughter was taking part in the march past and general celebrations after getting through six weeks preliminary training (boot camp) towards becoming a chopper copilot at the Australian Defence Forces Academy (University for the armed forces, a highly regarded university here).

The correct term is "observer" but she'll be in charge of navigation, communications, computers, and armaments while the pilot steers.

I was really proud.

In one sense, the marching and so on seems to me to be one of the most useless skills it is possible to have in modern warfare. But at the same time it is fantastic training in cooperation, team work, building esprit de corps, discipline and self control.

Don
take what you want and pay for it
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Andrew
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Monday, May 24, 2004 - 1:18 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I liked the book. I am not very good with words, so I would not write a good review. If anyone does publicly I will gladly add my 0.02 c.
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Scott
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Username: Scott

Post Number: 334
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 4:59 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome Andrew!

I am writing a review - from the POV of one that hated it on first read but is loving it on the second attempt, attempted over the last year - finally did it. I am not the world's best writer, but I can hopefully critique this fairly. When I send it in, I will let everyone know.

Scott
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Ces gens, Jondalar, ils sourient. Ils me sourient. - Ayla
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Thalion
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Username: Thalion

Post Number: 843
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Posted on Friday, May 28, 2004 - 11:30 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey, that's great! I can't wait to read it!
The golden mammoth goes to --- Scott!

I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they pass by - Douglas Adams
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Djmcflessan
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 2:53 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just want Auel to tell me that Jondalar and Ayla are going to be together for the rest of their lives and how many times a week they share pleasures. Now that that is over she can put them a little to the side and just develope the other characters, Joplaya, Echozar and the rest and wrap it all up. I absolutely love the books and I don't want to have to wonder what happened to the people after she is done writing
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hesterloli Only (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:30 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing but an expository book. It is not a Novel. Or at least in the way most Novels are expected to be. The Shelters of Stone is truley miserable. I have not finished it about 1/2 way through. But at this point I still cannot tell you what the story is. There is none. No action most everything luckily happens off scene so there is a sense of gratitude that I am not going to have to wade through the next explanation of soaproot. Hey Jean let's get to the point. I think you lost it after The Mammoth Hunters.
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Cavebear
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Username: Cavebear

Post Number: 2612
Registered: 9-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hear, hear! :-)

What do you think the ending of the story should be?
Machiavelli was pretty devious. For a guy...
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Matera
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 3:51 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just shmoozing around here...

Cavebear sez: "Jean lost the whole point of her own story and drifted off into a romance novel."

- I thought that part started in VoH - ROFL

What might I say...
"A long and fascinating look into the customs and culture of our prehistoric ancestors. This book will satisfy the most demanding reader's hunger for detail."

Well, that sounds better than "Unfocussed head-hopping ramble that would have benefitted from a little planning and some severe editing"
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Annie
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Post Number: 2083
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Posted on Monday, June 04, 2007 - 6:26 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL, Matera! :D You do have a very tactful way of putting things...
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Darandon
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 8-2008
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 5:07 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am reading SoS for the 3rd or 4th time, and I notice something I hadn't before. Ayla and Jondalar have arrived at the ninth cave, and are visiting with Marthona, and after a couple hours of catching up about various things, Marthona finally gets around to asking about Thonolan. I think the first thing she would have asked about would be "Where is Thonolan? Why isn't he with you?" (Folara did)
Every other person Jondalar saw on his way back home asked why Thonolan was not with him, almost immediately. But not his mother?
All I can figure is that Jean did not want to disturb the initial introduction of Ayla and Marthona, with the news of tragedy.
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Annie
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Username: Annie

Post Number: 2318
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2008 - 9:00 pm:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Darandon:

Ayla and Jondalar have arrived at the ninth cave, and are visiting with Marthona, and after a couple hours of catching up about various things, Marthona finally gets around to asking about Thonolan. I think the first thing she would have asked about would be "Where is Thonolan? Why isn't he with you?" (Folara did)


Well, that's the difference between a brash and thoughtless young girl, and her wiser and more tactful mother. ;) Marthona is smart and observant; she can see for herself that Thonolan isn't there, she doesn't need to have it pointed out to her - and besides, as Thonolan himself told Jondalar in VoH, she hasn't really been expecting him to return at all. But when one of your sons finally returns from a 5-year long journey, you want to celebrate that properly for a time, both for yourself and to give him a "welcome home" to remember - which means, don't start by asking questions that possibly have very sad answers.
Chess is the purest form of debate, unadulterated by a topic.
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Darandon
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Post Number: 14
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Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 4:35 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Annie:

I wouldn't go so far as to say Folara is a "Brash and thoughtless young girl"... I mean, you are talking about the "Blessed of Doni" here.

She's more like; "Excited and inquisitive".

But you make a good point.
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Darandon
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Post Number: 17
Registered: 8-2008
Posted on Saturday, September 06, 2008 - 7:10 am:   Edit PostView Post/Check IPPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I said earlier, I am currently reading SoS. The latest thing I noticed is that 'Brukeval' is seemingly brand new to Jondalar's conscience.

In all of his discussions with Ayla about the Clan, Brukeval's name never came up, until they got back to his home. Jondalar grew up with him, yet he (Or Jean) never mentioned him.

Brukeval was teased, and scorned by many all his life for his "Flathead" features. Are we supposed to believe that the Zelandonii people only thought he looked like a flathead, but did not think he actually was one?

The Zelandonii,- according to what Jondalar tells Ayla after the welcoming feast- know enough about Brukevals family history to make the logical conclusion that Brukeval is part Clan.

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