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Thalion
storyteller
Username: Thalion
Post Number: 1030
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 30, 2004 - 10:03 am: |     |
Anne, you don't need any html formatting for using the formatting codes on this board. They may take a bit getting used to, but the syntax is always similar, and after you start using a few, it gets second nature.
\quote{typenameofauthor,textyouwannaquote}
name of author and text are separated by a comma.
But using quotation marks is fine, too.
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they pass by - Douglas Adams |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 178
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 12:03 am: | |
Thalion:
Whatever works, and makes things clear, will be fine by me, as long as nobody else minds :-)
Anne G |
Scott
storyteller
Username: Scott
Post Number: 425
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 6:23 am: | |
quote:Anne G: You must live in Yukon or some such place. Such as Interior Alaska. Washington State doesn't have any "boreal forest", although it has plenty of evergreens, since they grow well here.
I live in Alberta, 48% of which is comprised of boreal forest. I actually live in a micro-climate composed of boreal forest, inbetween the Rockies to the immediate west (where I hike), glacier to the northwest, foothills to the east. However, my heart is in the rainforest of the Pacific Northwest.
Scott
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Ces gens, Jondalar, ils sourient. Ils me sourient. - Ayla |
Thalion
storyteller
Username: Thalion
Post Number: 1057
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:40 pm: | |
Here's some nice stuff about boreal forests: http://www.borealnet.org/overview/whatistheboreal. html
and a great game, made for kids, but fun for adults, too 
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/features/96/fore st/html/forest.html
I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they pass by - Douglas Adams |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 191
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 5:03 am: | |
Scott and Thalion:
Hey, I think a boreal forest environment sounds pretty neat! It gets kinda cold(from my POV)in the winter, though.
Anne G |
Scott
storyteller
Username: Scott
Post Number: 427
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 5:16 am: | |
It was a cold winter last year here, but we only got about 5 days where it was below -45C. I have special gloves and boots rated for below 40C and they worked like a charm. The antifreeze in cars was slushy and exposed skin froze in seconds, but that was rare. The ice fishing was tough as you had to auger through about 150cm of ice in places. (A hairdresser friend of mine was regalling us with stories of people that went out in the morning for work and damaged their hair - in one case it was still wet and it flash froze to the metal gate she was unlocking and she ripped off a great deal of her hair as it simply broke.) Most days were a balmy -20C and sunny. We often get chinook winds and the mercury will rise above 0.
I find the west coast colder Anne. Here the humidity is very low - 20% sometimes. On the coast it is damp and that kind of cold goes right to my bones, at even 3 or 4 C.
Miisa probably has it worse for cold though. I heard that Finnish summers start on July 31 and end on August 1st. We have a couple more days than that. It didn't snow in July for the second year in a row here - bonus!
Scott
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Ces gens, Jondalar, ils sourient. Ils me sourient. - Ayla |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 193
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 5:29 am: | |
Scott:
YOu are talking about "dry" cold v. "damp" cold, and believe me, having lived through damp Januarys and Februarys around here, I know *exactly* what you're talking about. The temperature may be 45°, but it feels bone-penetratingly chilly.
Anne G |
Pine
storyteller
Username: Pine
Post Number: 543
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 6:21 am: | |
I don't know, Anne. I'm in the PNW as well, and yes, I get chilled, but I can see the kids walking to school in shorts in mid-winter. I think it's just a matter of age-related adaptability.
"Mommy, you are not always wrong!" - my daughter, almost 6. |
Miisa
storyteller
Username: Miisa
Post Number: 395
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 11:10 am: | |
Scott: Miisa probably has it worse for cold though. I heard that Finnish summers start on July 31 and end on August 1st. We have a couple more days than that. It didn't snow in July for the second year in a row here - bonus!
You have got to be kidding!!! I am horrified at your descriptions of your climate. Northern Finland might rival that, but only just. The Gulf stream, you know, and no mountains. And I am in the cosy South. 
I deeply dislike it when it gets much below -20C. Luckily we don't have more than a handful to a few dozen or so days like that every year.
We just got an Indian Summer; it was raining, hard, for weeks on end, and just as the holiday season ended this week, it got hot. It is over 27C right now. I might even have to go swimming in the lake if it keeps up!!!
The key to surviving the extremes is having the right preparation. In the British Isles it feels extremely cold in the winter, not just because of the damp, but because the houses seem to have been made with the firm belief that there will be no more winters, ever. And when it comes after all, it is COLD inside! Also, if it is only moderately cold outside people don't dress well enough. I once heard that hundreds of people die in just the London area every year indirectly from the cold, in that they don't wear hats and gloves and such when going to work, and the strain on the circulation causes a heart attack! |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 196
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 1:57 am: | |
Miisa:
To be perfectly fair, everyone who grows up in a particular climate, whether it be southern Finland, the Pacific NW, or Central Texas, to name three rather "disparate" climate types, gets acclimatized to that particular condition. For instance, the Pacific NW has damp, gray winters, but they're not particularly "cold" by most standards. And the summers can be wonderfully warm(but not too warm) and sunny! So I'm used to "moderate" temperatures and the occasional bad windstorm in the wintertime. OTOH, when I lived in Texas, I had people tell me it wasn't "really" hot when it was hotter than it normally gets in Seattle, every day from about the middle of April to the end of September. And it was horribly humid, from my POV. I wasn't used to extended peirods of that kind of temperatures. I don't know how I"d "do" in your part of Finland in the winter(even if I did dress for the weather). But that's another story.
Anne G |
Cavebear
flint knapper
Username: Cavebear
Post Number: 1169
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 2:16 am: | |
I live in Maryland and have for 40 years. I have never gotten used to the typical Summer 95/95 (temperature and humidity). I step outside and I just wilt. Every June-August yardwork is an exercize in working hard in a sauna.
I recall reading a study of Civil War soldiers who were radically outside their accustomed climate. The conclusion was that Northern soldiers with the same clothing as Southern ones got by just as well in the hot Southern Summers and that Southern soldiers exposed to Northern Winters with the same clothing as their Northern captures did just as well as those who lived there.
I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was mistaken about that. |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 200
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 2:53 am: | |
Cavebear:
Makes me glad I don't live in Maryland! :-) And I guess that explains why I never got used to Texas summers!
Anne G |
Pine
storyteller
Username: Pine
Post Number: 546
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 6:16 am: | |
I was born in Israel and lived there most my life, though not continuously, and I can tell you the only way to get 'acclimated' to the hamsin, especially the sticky, humid kind one encounters in the coastal plain is with the aid of air-conditioning.
"Mommy, you are not always wrong!" - my daughter, almost 6. |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 203
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 4:10 pm: | |
Pine:
Ugh! Sounds a lot like Central TExas in the summer. You can't live *there* without air conditioning, either.
Anne G |
Annie
storyteller
Username: Annie
Post Number: 899
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 4:32 pm: | |
Pine, that was a perfect demonstration of our culture's decadence, thanks!  I am happy to report that I don't have air conditioning at home, "only" a couple of fans. Though I do live more than halfway up the mountain, which is admittedly a lot better than the coastal plain, and I do have AC at work (which is down on the plain), but I turn it off as soon as my coworkers leave. I suppose I may be some atavism naturally acclimated to African temperatures... |
Sidescraper_gal
gatherer
Username: Sidescraper_gal
Post Number: 204
Registered: 7-2004
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 5:05 pm: | |
Annie:
There is air conditioning at most workplaces in Seattle, because, contrary to popular stereotypes, it doesn't rain all the time around h ere. And summers can be hot and sticky at times(global warming may have something to do with this; they seem to have been getting hotter and stickier lately), but such temperatures never seem to last very long, fortunately. So nobody that I know of has air conditioning in the ir *homes*. But most people I know have fans to cool themselves off in the summertime, at least from time to time.
Anne G |
Cavebear
flint knapper
Username: Cavebear
Post Number: 1176
Registered: 9-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 9:09 pm: | |
My area of Maryland varies in temperature from about 103F to -10F with humidity ranging from about 10% in the Winter to over 90% in Summer. I had to add a humidifier to my heating system just to prevent my lips from cracking in Winter, and if the central A/C didn't dehumidify the air indoors, I would melt. Bodily sweat-cooling doesn't work very well at 90% humidity; it just doesn't evaporate. Fortunately, this has been a rather cool and dry. Summer.
I thought I was wrong once, but it turned out I was mistaken about that. |
Pine
storyteller
Username: Pine
Post Number: 555
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 9:36 pm: | |
Annie, when we lived in Haifa we did well without air-conditioning for years while many places were sweltering. The difference was most noticeable during my military service when I traveled back and forth from Tzrifin to Haifa.
The book 'ani ve-Tali b-eretz ha-lamma' (I and Tali in the land of why) by Avraham Shlonsky has several pages of rhymes in which Shlonsky and Tali discuss the derivation of the word hamsin. My daughter couldn't relate when we read it a few months ago. If she had agreed to reread it a few weeks ago it could have been somewhat more meaningful, but it wasn't on her priority list.
"Mommy, you are not always wrong!" - my daughter, almost 6. |
Txangoddess
bear cub
Username: Txangoddess
Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 2:34 pm: | |
It is the weirdest thing, but two days ago, the weather actually got kind of pleasant here. Yes, in the middle of August! for all those of you who know the terrible sweltering oppression of the Gulf Coast heat and humidity until about October.
Ishi could tell, but I think this small cool front is probably what shoved Charley into FL.
It's 74 degrees right now inside with no A/C on at all and the pavement is actually cool on my porch to my bare dogs.
Feels like Christmas lol! |
Torlando
bear cub
Username: Torlando
Post Number: 5
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 9:09 pm: | |
It is amazing to see how a topic can change direction over time 
The weather here in the middle of Sweden right now is pretty normal for mid april - around 10-12 C and sunny
And for the EC books - I think they are good  |
Anya
bear cub
Username: Anya
Post Number: 16
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 10:51 am: | |
Winter is coming back here, in the french Alps ! It's snowing right now ! |
Torlando
bear cub
Username: Torlando
Post Number: 6
Registered: 4-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 12:57 pm: | |
Anya, maybe it is the new Ice age that begins now
Read all the EC books once again to prepare yourself! |
Anya
bear cub
Username: Anya
Post Number: 17
Registered: 12-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 1:06 pm: | |
Why not ! I remember, when I was young, the seasons were really setted out ; I was living near the Atlantic ocean ; we didn't have snow, or perhaps just a little, but winter was cold. spring was mild and summer hot. It's so different now ! Almost no more seasons ! So strange !
I'm reading again Shelters of stone, not to get prepared but because I'm just coming back from Les Eyzies and visited Font-de-Gaume cave ! It was really moving for me to be there ! |
Rachel_faith
bear cub
Username: Rachel_faith
Post Number: 1
Registered: 6-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 1:02 am: | |
Hi Ya, I am new to this board and to the books. I saw the movie on Cable for the first time Friday Night and so I downloaded all the Ebooks and read them all right thru back to back for the last, 5 days, one per day. AWESOME. I'm still absorbing it all. Can't believe Ive missed such an awesome story all this time. I cant wait for 6 & 7.
My general comments on this topic (and on the off topics in this topic) would be that COCB was a masterpiece. VOTH was an excellent sequal. Truly what happened to the young girl as she grew up on her own and all was great, not as great as COCB but for sure a great book. None of them could stand on their own, and I think thats the problem we all seem to have with the series.
As I think about other great works, the ones that truly stand out are those in which any part of the story stands on its own without a lot of background needed.
Here is the one thing I noticed in the general decline of the books.
TIMELINE SHRINKS!
Thats it.
That is the problem.
COCB covered YEARS. And in perfect story telling, stopped and gave detials on special events. The historical fanstasy stuff... the added coloration was minimal but well done.
The whole "mother nature - PC - Trees are our freinds stuff gets old tho and has become more and more and MORE of the story... and TIME... the thing that REALLY shapes us, less and less and le... till the last book is not even ONE season.
So, we go from 10 YEARS in book 1 to less than 10 MONTHS in book 5.
And, frankly speaking... Id like to know how a story ENDS, the detials about how you cook birds or have sex... please.. once was enough. If I wanted that 16 times a book... Id go read Romance Trash. This is supposed to be a higher art.
Anyway, as a very direct and strong willed woman myself who grew up precociously as well, I really related to Ayla and her growth and the triumph of her spirit.
And I hope my frank remarks are taken well in that same spirit.
PAX
Rachel Faith
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Pine
flint knapper
Username: Pine
Post Number: 968
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 7:05 am: | |
Hi Rachel!
I am one of those who disagrees that there was a decline in the way the series developed. (And each of the books 3-5 spans less than a year) the whole series 9so far) is a masterpiece in the way details at distant points are interweaved (like the 9th Cave being Creb's ancestral home). Auel does have this tendency to lecture, but then, that's the sort of thing that makes her fictional world so rich in detail.
"We have something offensive for everyone. If nothing that we own offends you, please complain." - sign in a library. |
Aylanna79
bear cub
Username: Aylanna79
Post Number: 1
Registered: 11-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 3:36 am: | |
Hi! I am new here too! I have read all the books so many times I am wearing them out. I love how Jean Auel goes on and on about all the details of nature, all the plants and animals, and what they are like in Ayla's world. It helped me to envision so clearly what it would be like to have lived in an environment like that. I live in a city, here I can live day after day not seeing very much of nature. So these books were an amazing escape. Ayla is also very inspiring to me, in that she learns so much from all her experiences, and always tries to do her best at everything, and to be self sufficient. Today we are so dependant on everything having already been prepared for us. I know if I was suddenly thrown out into the wilderness, and I tried to survive, I probably wouldn't make it very long at all. Anyway, I'm so glad I found this board, I had found a ezboard for Jean Auel but there were only two posts there, and now mine, but no one is responding. I guess everyone is here. |
Scott
flint knapper
Username: Scott
Post Number: 1118
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2005 - 8:10 am: | |
Welcome Aylanna79!
I think this is why most of us were captivated with her writing. And yes, most of us would be dead in a very short time if we were kicked out into the wilderness, with nothing, especially in cold climates.
Scott
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Ces gens, Jondalar, ils sourient. Ils me sourient. - Ayla |
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